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Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby MancheStar » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:48 pm

Where do you see the BDO in a years time? With uncertainty over venues, tv, lady players getting banned if they qualify for pdc worlds, new board etc etc.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby bukowski » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:49 pm

RIP in two years

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Postby Skewball » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:22 pm

same as it is now, scrabbling to get its so called majors on TV while the top players continue to go to PDC and the Members do nothing as long as the BICC trundles on.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby Zapp Brannigan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:32 pm

In 2 years?

No longer here in their current form

Either the bicc will be the main company and they will cover the counties or it will be pushed back to each country organisation

Opens in the uk will come under England darts and they will have their own final tournament.

Challenge tour will expand to have a ladies tour on the same weekend. with the pdc taking on a few of the holiday park weekends to have a big darts weekend, like challenge ladies youth and pro tour all weekend.

Dutch will finally make the vote to join the pdc, pdc will offer their players tour cards for the best players and the Dutch will become a big euro tour event open to everyone

USA will make the same deal as the Asia tour and create a full pdc affiliated North American tour

Darts becomes as unified as it willl ever be

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Postby Skewball » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:07 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:In 2 years?

No longer here in their current form

Either the bicc will be the main company and they will cover the counties or it will be pushed back to each country organisation

Opens in the uk will come under England darts and they will have their own final tournament.

Challenge tour will expand to have a ladies tour on the same weekend. with the pdc taking on a few of the holiday park weekends to have a big darts weekend, like challenge ladies youth and pro tour all weekend.

Dutch will finally make the vote to join the pdc, pdc will offer their players tour cards for the best players and the Dutch will become a big euro tour event open to everyone

USA will make the same deal as the Asia tour and create a full pdc affiliated North American tour

Darts becomes as unified as it willl ever be
Well thought out and I quite agree as an end position. Sadly I think it will be 4 or 5 years, this new board will try for a few years to keep it going in it's current guise. Waste of time of course.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby Zapp Brannigan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:15 pm

Skewball wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:In 2 years?

No longer here in their current form

Either the bicc will be the main company and they will cover the counties or it will be pushed back to each country organisation

Opens in the uk will come under England darts and they will have their own final tournament.

Challenge tour will expand to have a ladies tour on the same weekend. with the pdc taking on a few of the holiday park weekends to have a big darts weekend, like challenge ladies youth and pro tour all weekend.

Dutch will finally make the vote to join the pdc, pdc will offer their players tour cards for the best players and the Dutch will become a big euro tour event open to everyone

USA will make the same deal as the Asia tour and create a full pdc affiliated North American tour

Darts becomes as unified as it willl ever be
Well thought out and I quite agree as an end position. Sadly I think it will be 4 or 5 years, this new board will try for a few years to keep it going in it's current guise. Waste of time of course.


It depends how quickly they can find a sponsor or tv

If they try and do lakeside with no sponsor and no tv they will be blowing £300k-400k down the drain on one event with no return. Once they do that it’s all over.

The only way they stagger on for 3 or 4 more years is if they pull something out of the hat for the worlds or the other countries involved in the wdf (or just the Dutch) pledge to support the bdo 100%

If the Dutch finally vote to join the pdc then it’s their biggest darting Ally jumping ship on top of their biggest sponsor

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Postby Ginge » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:22 pm

If Lakeside goes ahead at Lakeside, with no sponsor, are the BDO stupid enough to let Potter keep all the gate receipts?

Surely not. How much would, let say, half the gate receipts contribute towards the pot?
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Postby ChrisW » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:23 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Skewball wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:In 2 years?

No longer here in their current form

Either the bicc will be the main company and they will cover the counties or it will be pushed back to each country organisation

Opens in the uk will come under England darts and they will have their own final tournament.

Challenge tour will expand to have a ladies tour on the same weekend. with the pdc taking on a few of the holiday park weekends to have a big darts weekend, like challenge ladies youth and pro tour all weekend.

Dutch will finally make the vote to join the pdc, pdc will offer their players tour cards for the best players and the Dutch will become a big euro tour event open to everyone

USA will make the same deal as the Asia tour and create a full pdc affiliated North American tour

Darts becomes as unified as it willl ever be
Well thought out and I quite agree as an end position. Sadly I think it will be 4 or 5 years, this new board will try for a few years to keep it going in it's current guise. Waste of time of course.


It depends how quickly they can find a sponsor or tv

If they try and do lakeside with no sponsor and no tv they will be blowing £300k-400k down the drain on one event with no return. Once they do that it’s all over.

The only way they stagger on for 3 or 4 more years is if they pull something out of the hat for the worlds or the other countries involved in the wdf (or just the Dutch) pledge to support the bdo 100%

If the Dutch finally vote to join the pdc then it’s their biggest darting Ally jumping ship on top of their biggest sponsor

How do you see the' 'Dutch' joining the PDC?

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby Zapp Brannigan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:26 pm

ChrisW wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Skewball wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:In 2 years?

No longer here in their current form

Either the bicc will be the main company and they will cover the counties or it will be pushed back to each country organisation

Opens in the uk will come under England darts and they will have their own final tournament.

Challenge tour will expand to have a ladies tour on the same weekend. with the pdc taking on a few of the holiday park weekends to have a big darts weekend, like challenge ladies youth and pro tour all weekend.

Dutch will finally make the vote to join the pdc, pdc will offer their players tour cards for the best players and the Dutch will become a big euro tour event open to everyone

USA will make the same deal as the Asia tour and create a full pdc affiliated North American tour

Darts becomes as unified as it willl ever be
Well thought out and I quite agree as an end position. Sadly I think it will be 4 or 5 years, this new board will try for a few years to keep it going in it's current guise. Waste of time of course.


It depends how quickly they can find a sponsor or tv

If they try and do lakeside with no sponsor and no tv they will be blowing £300k-400k down the drain on one event with no return. Once they do that it’s all over.

The only way they stagger on for 3 or 4 more years is if they pull something out of the hat for the worlds or the other countries involved in the wdf (or just the Dutch) pledge to support the bdo 100%

If the Dutch finally vote to join the pdc then it’s their biggest darting Ally jumping ship on top of their biggest sponsor

How do you see the' 'Dutch' joining the PDC?


They had a vote to consider affiliating with the PDC did they not? they are also in a complete mess at the minute after the board fell apart.

If they was to turn their back on the WDF and became an affiliate of the PDC with their own local tour then they would be a massive coup for the PDC.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby ChrisW » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:34 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
ChrisW wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Skewball wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:In 2 years?

No longer here in their current form

Either the bicc will be the main company and they will cover the counties or it will be pushed back to each country organisation

Opens in the uk will come under England darts and they will have their own final tournament.

Challenge tour will expand to have a ladies tour on the same weekend. with the pdc taking on a few of the holiday park weekends to have a big darts weekend, like challenge ladies youth and pro tour all weekend.

Dutch will finally make the vote to join the pdc, pdc will offer their players tour cards for the best players and the Dutch will become a big euro tour event open to everyone

USA will make the same deal as the Asia tour and create a full pdc affiliated North American tour

Darts becomes as unified as it willl ever be
Well thought out and I quite agree as an end position. Sadly I think it will be 4 or 5 years, this new board will try for a few years to keep it going in it's current guise. Waste of time of course.


It depends how quickly they can find a sponsor or tv

If they try and do lakeside with no sponsor and no tv they will be blowing £300k-400k down the drain on one event with no return. Once they do that it’s all over.

The only way they stagger on for 3 or 4 more years is if they pull something out of the hat for the worlds or the other countries involved in the wdf (or just the Dutch) pledge to support the bdo 100%

If the Dutch finally vote to join the pdc then it’s their biggest darting Ally jumping ship on top of their biggest sponsor

How do you see the' 'Dutch' joining the PDC?


They had a vote to consider affiliating with the PDC did they not? they are also in a complete mess at the minute after the board fell apart.

If they was to turn their back on the WDF and became an affiliate of the PDC with their own local tour then they would be a massive coup for the PDC.

I just don't see it happening in the way you think.
I could see them doing the affiliate thing. But to drop the entry of Dutch players into WDF events I can't see.
This seems to be a lot of where their main efforts go. Supporting the youth, and the adult teams in various events. (World, Europe, Youth events etc.)
The Dutch Open which is their flagship event. I couldn't see them letting go of this.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby Zapp Brannigan » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:41 pm

ChrisW wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:
ChrisW wrote:
Zapp Brannigan wrote:
Skewball wrote:Well thought out and I quite agree as an end position. Sadly I think it will be 4 or 5 years, this new board will try for a few years to keep it going in it's current guise. Waste of time of course.


It depends how quickly they can find a sponsor or tv

If they try and do lakeside with no sponsor and no tv they will be blowing £300k-400k down the drain on one event with no return. Once they do that it’s all over.

The only way they stagger on for 3 or 4 more years is if they pull something out of the hat for the worlds or the other countries involved in the wdf (or just the Dutch) pledge to support the bdo 100%

If the Dutch finally vote to join the pdc then it’s their biggest darting Ally jumping ship on top of their biggest sponsor

How do you see the' 'Dutch' joining the PDC?


They had a vote to consider affiliating with the PDC did they not? they are also in a complete mess at the minute after the board fell apart.

If they was to turn their back on the WDF and became an affiliate of the PDC with their own local tour then they would be a massive coup for the PDC.

I just don't see it happening in the way you think.
I could see them doing the affiliate thing. But to drop the entry of Dutch players into WDF events I can't see.
This seems to be a lot of where their main efforts go. Supporting the youth, and the adult teams in various events. (World, Europe, Youth events etc.)
The Dutch Open which is their flagship event. I couldn't see them letting go of this.


IF the PDC offered them complete self control in terms of everything that went on in the Netherlands, Tour card places for the top players on their tour, incentives for their youth players then what are they really losing in terms of being with the PDC over the WDF.

Entry to WDF events - Would only seriously effect english tournaments

Entry to team events - Could be a major sticking point.

The pros though, the PDC could turn the Dutch open into a massive euro tour event, make it the opening tournament of the year open to any PDC member or European affiliated member, get it on TV and make a big deal of it. Numbers would be down but the exposure and income would be as good if not better.

The top dutch players come back under the NBD. MVG and Barney become marketable faces for them.

Their tour could have serious meaning with places to the worlds, PDC youths and tour cards.

Same with the Finders (if its NBD owned) if the PDC turned that into a dutch leg of the WSOD the exposure of the tournament could go up 10 fold.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby ChrisW » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:49 pm

Finders is not run through the NDB.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby DartsMadJohn » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:23 pm

Do the NDB run something like the BDO inter-county system? Because if so, you could potentially turn the Dutch Open into a UK Open-style event where each province of Holland sends a number of qualifiers to play the seeded PDC players, either through domestic tournaments or by using the earliest rounds of the Dutch Open to sort players into their regional groupings so Boards 1,2, 3 are for Amsterdam-based players,4 & 5 for Rotterdam and so on...

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby Dazzla501 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:41 pm

Still going as it is but a slow and painful death all the while the BDO keeps insisting it has a commercially viable ‘top end’.

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Postby Black Velvet » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:51 pm

Ticking along nicely, as ever.

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Postby Garry Murphy » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:11 pm

where do we SEE the bdo in a years time ?

Chances are we wont be seeing them at all,
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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby Ginge » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:17 pm

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How can the BDO hold their world championships WITHOUT a tv deal in place? If not will @Duzza180 start to regret his “I’m BDO for life” comments??

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby ChrisW » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:23 pm

If Duzza get's the hatrick I think he will move on.

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Re: Where do you see the BDO in a years time?

Postby Zapp Brannigan » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:43 pm

ChrisW wrote:If Duzza get's the hatrick I think he will move on.


Me thinks he will move on no matter what

Can say he has no regrets on his decision to stay but that doesn’t mean he can’t change his mind

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Postby Skewball » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:56 pm

Zapp Brannigan wrote:
ChrisW wrote:If Duzza get's the hatrick I think he will move on.


Me thinks he will move on no matter what

Can say he has no regrets on his decision to stay but that doesn’t mean he can’t change his mind
Yeah, it's not too late for him , he needs to move otherwise despite what he says he will have regrets imho


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