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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby Ginge » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:34 pm

Waites has a point but probably not the best way to go about dealing with it. As for ref asking what he should do about it....erm, actually be a ref and make a decision?
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby nikkiboy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:40 pm

MancheStar wrote:https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1049379472867319808?s=21

Parletti and Waites incident from the masters

You could always make the oche a tad wider and voila all sorted. The only issue would be health and safety if someone had an accident falling over the larger oche but I'm sure everyone has insurance to cover any injuries :IIII:
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby BlueSpark » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:51 pm

nikkiboy wrote:
MancheStar wrote:https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1049379472867319808?s=21

Parletti and Waites incident from the masters

You could always make the oche a tad wider and voila all sorted. The only issue would be health and safety if someone had an accident falling over the larger oche but I'm sure everyone has insurance to cover any injuries :IIII:


He could have knocked up a bigger oche, no trouble
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby nikkiboy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:53 pm

BlueSpark wrote:
nikkiboy wrote:
MancheStar wrote:https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1049379472867319808?s=21

Parletti and Waites incident from the masters

You could always make the oche a tad wider and voila all sorted. The only issue would be health and safety if someone had an accident falling over the larger oche but I'm sure everyone has insurance to cover any injuries :IIII:


He could have knocked up a bigger oche, no trouble

We all know a massive Oche.......
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby DavidB » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:59 pm

Ginge wrote:Waites has a point but probably not the best way to go about dealing with it. As for ref asking what he should do about it....erm, actually be a ref and make a decision?



What else could he have done? He won the set (didn't do it after losing the first set) and went straight to the ref.

Interesting that Parletti doesn't say much!

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby Ginge » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:01 pm

The ref could have asked him to stop doing it, not watching it again but I dont recall him saying anything along these lines.
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby DavidB » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:01 pm

You mean ask Parletti not Waites??

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby nikkiboy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:03 pm

DavidB wrote:
Ginge wrote:Waites has a point but probably not the best way to go about dealing with it. As for ref asking what he should do about it....erm, actually be a ref and make a decision?



What else could he have done? He won the set (didn't do it after losing the first set) and went straight to the ref.

Interesting that Parletti doesn't say much!

Don't think anyone could complain where there is no raised oche, the issue is that Parletti throws from well over to the right past the oche. Scott waited until after the set had finished, fair play but the ref needs to refer it to a second official to monitor.
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby Ginge » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:03 pm

DavidB wrote:You mean ask Parletti not Waites??


Well yes of course, ask Parletti to stop doing it.
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby DavidB » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:12 pm

Ginge wrote:
DavidB wrote:You mean ask Parletti not Waites??


Well yes of course, ask Parletti to stop doing it.



Well I thought that's what you meant but you said Waites could have done it differently so thought you were talking about him!

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby DavidB » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:16 pm

nikkiboy wrote:
DavidB wrote:
Ginge wrote:Waites has a point but probably not the best way to go about dealing with it. As for ref asking what he should do about it....erm, actually be a ref and make a decision?



What else could he have done? He won the set (didn't do it after losing the first set) and went straight to the ref.

Interesting that Parletti doesn't say much!

Don't think anyone could complain where there is no raised oche, the issue is that Parletti throws from well over to the right past the oche. Scott waited until after the set had finished, fair play but the ref needs to refer it to a second official to monitor.



There must have been a raised oche, just perhaps not that big or long??

Yes the ref should have done a bit more there.

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby DavidOwen67 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:53 am

If Parletti did fall over a raised oche, I'm sure he could raise thousands to pay his medical bills somehow.

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby daveboygreen » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:13 am

Even with raised oche's I have come across players at many comps that will still put their foot onto the oche instead of leaning against it or putting their toe to it, I could understand Waites having a moan if Parletti was standing to the side of the oche and was perhaps beyond the line but does it really give a player any advantage anyways?

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby DavidB » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:36 am

daveboygreen wrote:Even with raised oche's I have come across players at many comps that will still put their foot onto the oche instead of leaning against it or putting their toe to it, I could understand Waites having a moan if Parletti was standing to the side of the oche and was perhaps beyond the line but does it really give a player any advantage anyways?




Yep, I've played players who actually put their foot on the raised oche, then squashed the top of their shoe so technically their 'foot' is behind the oche but the top of the shoe is on the top of the oche. Is that actually allowed?? I've never questioned it but surely the 'foot' includes the footwear used??

Whether it gains an advantage or not is by the by, if it's not allowed then it ain't allowed!

I'm not sure in this case whether it was this that was the problem or if the foot was standing past the raised oche to the side??

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby daveboygreen » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:31 am

DavidB wrote:
daveboygreen wrote:Even with raised oche's I have come across players at many comps that will still put their foot onto the oche instead of leaning against it or putting their toe to it, I could understand Waites having a moan if Parletti was standing to the side of the oche and was perhaps beyond the line but does it really give a player any advantage anyways?




Yep, I've played players who actually put their foot on the raised oche, then squashed the top of their shoe so technically their 'foot' is behind the oche but the top of the shoe is on the top of the oche. Is that actually allowed?? I've never questioned it but surely the 'foot' includes the footwear used??

Whether it gains an advantage or not is by the by, if it's not allowed then it ain't allowed!

I'm not sure in this case whether it was this that was the problem or if the foot was standing past the raised oche to the side??



I always and have thought that the rule is Toe to the oche, Anything beyond that should not be allowed

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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby Ginge » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:33 am

Rab Butler or Ricgard Ashowdown wouldnt have stood there like lemons doing nothing about it.
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Re: World Masters 2018

Postby daveboygreen » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:35 am

Ginge wrote:Rab Butler or Ricgard Ashowdown wouldnt have stood there like lemons doing nothing about it.


Little Bitchard has done in the past!!


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