Van der Voort proposes new ranking event

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Re: Van der Voort proposes new ranking event

Post by billyd » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:42 am

PVDarts501 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:05 am
malcy93 wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:57 am
What was Ian White”s complaint ?

As noted VVV and O”S have completely the reverse complaints.

In some ways I sympathise with O”S in that outside the World Championship, events have 128 full tour card draws so with all the matches the tournaments have to be played in leisure centre type multi table venues.

Look at the ongoing U.K. Open it is snookers 2nd most important ranked event and has this. Also all the extra matches mean game lengths are halved compared to few years ago. However darts Matchplay has 16 OOM seeds and 16 qualifiers in single stage prestigious venue.

Don’t get VVV moans about The Masters. It’s not invitational as it’s 16 top in OOM so you qualify by doing well on tour. Would have no problem seeing it or Champions League top 7/8 in OOM and last year”s winner ranked.

If he wants to moan complain about Premier League and the increasing number of World Series invitational events.

For the lower ranked OOM Superior Men's there are plenty of opportunities. Now direct entry to U.K. Open Finals and more Pro Tour and Euro Tour events although for the later they have to qualify.
Why should he moan about Premier League if that funds the prize money for the Tour?
Because players like Vincent don’t see the bigger picture.

O’Sullivan wants a best 10 results system I.e BDO ranking, rather than go to every event just to stay on top. You could argue that’s why Barney is now retiring as he is dropping like a stone, difference is he isn’t backing it up with results in the tournaments he does bother to enter. Snooker and darts logistics/timescale is completely different though but something to recognise in the future

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Re: Van der Voort proposes new ranking event

Post by malcy93 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:15 am

I though to some degree Hearn has recognised it will come.

He’s talked about the top players doing a global tour so ever expanded World Series as people around the world want to see the players live they see on TV in the majors.

You then have a second division of tour card Superior Men's doing the Pro Tour leisure centres aiming to qualify for the majors and move up.

Then the Euro tour sits in the middle. Is a stage event to crowds of up to 5k or so. But that needs to become less German centric. Play the German events in bigger venues so you need less events there for same number of available tickets or add more events and take up to say 20.

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Re: Van der Voort proposes new ranking event

Post by trotter » Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:51 am

O'Sullivan got no support from the tour about snooker..Judd Trump said he definitely didn't reflect the views of the tour...O'Sullivan just wants a cosy one table event for the elite but forgetting that players have to get a way of getting to that elite..

Ian White's argument was about being on board 2 at Minehead..well that's an argument with ITV who.put the players they would prefer on board 1..they pay the money after all and White has hardly being the most thrilling TV player yet in his career...it's an argument they have in tennis and any sport where TV decide what they want to show..

As for Van der Voort..I think he has a point..it's a dangerous game to increase the World Series events on top of events like The Masters, Champions League , World Series Finals etc....if they are trying to.promote a professional Tour that more players can be full time on then these events just cater for the elite who are already full time...The PL is fine and is a huge showcase...I think there is a case for the Masters to become a ranked event in sone way and certainly the World Series finals should have a way to become a ranked weekend but cannot be in its present form as there are too many invites..The Champions League is fine..

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Re: Van der Voort proposes new ranking event

Post by 1205 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:21 pm

trotter wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:51 am
As for Van der Voort..I think he has a point..it's a dangerous game to increase the World Series events on top of events like The Masters, Champions League , World Series Finals etc....if they are trying to.promote a professional Tour that more players can be full time on then these events just cater for the elite who are already full time...The PL is fine and is a huge showcase...I think there is a case for the Masters to become a ranked event in sone way and certainly the World Series finals should have a way to become a ranked weekend but cannot be in its present form as there are too many invites..The Champions League is fine..
I think they'd really need to move a ranking Masters. It's a month after the end of the World Championships, with no other ranking tournament before it.
If they shuffled it after one or two Players weekends it would at least give players more of a run up at it.

But, I agree with him on principle

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