A fact is fact - it normally favors somebody much like a PDC fact or anti BDO facts - they are still factsThe Ginger Ninja wrote:Celtic-biased facts.hang the dj wrote:Still doesn't make it any less trueThe Ginger Ninja wrote:^^ Again from a Celtic perspective.hang the dj wrote:mod500 wrote:
Again as Gary M has highlighted there are many reasons why I do not wish my club to be associated with rangers but because of the "old firm" tag this is what happens. Most people are like yourself & always just say "one is as bad as the other" but that is simply not true
What Gary M has highlighted is facts not opinions or rumours
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All clubs fans have embarrassed the club at some point & God knows we have plenty of our own morons in the stands at Celticmod500 wrote:There are many examples over the years where Celtic fans have failed to cover themselves in glory. And by the way my teams fans are no angels either.
Scotland fans are great. I wonder how many celtic and rangers fans support Scotland.
Tartan Army have been known to boo the odd national athem
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When did this happen?The Ginger Ninja wrote:The shameful hounding of a referee out of a game he loved being one example.mod500 wrote:There are many examples over the years where Celtic fans have failed to cover themselves in glory. And by the way my teams fans are no angels either.
Scotland fans are great. I wonder how many celtic and rangers fans support Scotland.
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You know full well when this happened, Sonny Jim!! I wont patronise you by providing a link.hang the dj wrote:When did this happen?The Ginger Ninja wrote:The shameful hounding of a referee out of a game he loved being one example.mod500 wrote:There are many examples over the years where Celtic fans have failed to cover themselves in glory. And by the way my teams fans are no angels either.
Scotland fans are great. I wonder how many celtic and rangers fans support Scotland.
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I'm well aware of the incident you refer to but not aware of what involvment the Celtic fans had to with it?The Ginger Ninja wrote:You know full well when this happened, Sonny Jim!! I wont patronise you by providing a link.hang the dj wrote:When did this happen?The Ginger Ninja wrote:The shameful hounding of a referee out of a game he loved being one example.mod500 wrote:There are many examples over the years where Celtic fans have failed to cover themselves in glory. And by the way my teams fans are no angels either.
Scotland fans are great. I wonder how many celtic and rangers fans support Scotland.
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I missed the word "fans"hang the dj wrote:I'm well aware of the incident you refer to but not aware of what involvment the Celtic fans had to with it?The Ginger Ninja wrote:You know full well when this happened, Sonny Jim!! I wont patronise you by providing a link.hang the dj wrote:When did this happen?The Ginger Ninja wrote:The shameful hounding of a referee out of a game he loved being one example.mod500 wrote:There are many examples over the years where Celtic fans have failed to cover themselves in glory. And by the way my teams fans are no angels either.
Scotland fans are great. I wonder how many celtic and rangers fans support Scotland.
Fair enough, it was just the club which were utter tosspots.
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The official himself admitted to lying on the offical match report & lying to Celtic manager Neil Lennon, he also admitted to conspirying to cover up the lie - in the majority of other jobs in the world he would have lost his job so there is no differnce in this caseThe Ginger Ninja wrote:I missed the word "fans"hang the dj wrote:I'm well aware of the incident you refer to but not aware of what involvment the Celtic fans had to with it?The Ginger Ninja wrote:You know full well when this happened, Sonny Jim!! I wont patronise you by providing a link.hang the dj wrote:When did this happen?The Ginger Ninja wrote: The shameful hounding of a referee out of a game he loved being one example.
Fair enough, it was just the club which were utter tosspots.
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So it was fine for Lennon to scream in an officials face then? Odious little man, is Lennon. Obviously has no respect for referees.hang the dj wrote: The official himself admitted to lying on the offical match report & lying to Celtic manager Neil Lennon, he also admitted to conspirying to cover up the lie - in the majority of other jobs in the world he would have lost his job so there is no differnce in this case
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He was punished for thatThe Ginger Ninja wrote:So it was fine for Lennon to scream in an officials face then? Odious little man, is Lennon. Obviously has no respect for referees.hang the dj wrote: The official himself admitted to lying on the offical match report & lying to Celtic manager Neil Lennon, he also admitted to conspirying to cover up the lie - in the majority of other jobs in the world he would have lost his job so there is no differnce in this case
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And rightly so. wonderful little man.hang the dj wrote:He was punished for thatThe Ginger Ninja wrote:So it was fine for Lennon to scream in an officials face then? Odious little man, is Lennon. Obviously has no respect for referees.hang the dj wrote: The official himself admitted to lying on the offical match report & lying to Celtic manager Neil Lennon, he also admitted to conspirying to cover up the lie - in the majority of other jobs in the world he would have lost his job so there is no differnce in this case
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So what does that have to do with a ref losing his job?The Ginger Ninja wrote:And rightly so. wonderful little man.hang the dj wrote:He was punished for thatThe Ginger Ninja wrote:So it was fine for Lennon to scream in an officials face then? Odious little man, is Lennon. Obviously has no respect for referees.hang the dj wrote: The official himself admitted to lying on the offical match report & lying to Celtic manager Neil Lennon, he also admitted to conspirying to cover up the lie - in the majority of other jobs in the world he would have lost his job so there is no differnce in this case
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So your personal opinion of him isn't very good but surely you would not condon detah threats aimed at him, bomb hoaxes & bullets being sent to him resulting in 24 hour security being providedThe Ginger Ninja wrote:And rightly so. wonderful little man.hang the dj wrote:He was punished for thatThe Ginger Ninja wrote:So it was fine for Lennon to scream in an officials face then? Odious little man, is Lennon. Obviously has no respect for referees.hang the dj wrote: The official himself admitted to lying on the offical match report & lying to Celtic manager Neil Lennon, he also admitted to conspirying to cover up the lie - in the majority of other jobs in the world he would have lost his job so there is no differnce in this case
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You never had this trouble with Mo'n.
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No, but that doesnt give him an excuse to treat officials with utter contempt.hang the dj wrote:So your personal opinion of him isn't very good but surely you would not condon detah threats aimed at him, bomb hoaxes & bullets being sent to him resulting in 24 hour security being providedThe Ginger Ninja wrote:And rightly so. wonderful little man.hang the dj wrote:He was punished for thatThe Ginger Ninja wrote:So it was fine for Lennon to scream in an officials face then? Odious little man, is Lennon. Obviously has no respect for referees.hang the dj wrote: The official himself admitted to lying on the offical match report & lying to Celtic manager Neil Lennon, he also admitted to conspirying to cover up the lie - in the majority of other jobs in the world he would have lost his job so there is no differnce in this case
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Of course he can't & he been banned for his behaviour but his behaviour does not warrent threats against his lifeThe Ginger Ninja wrote:No, but that doesnt give him an excuse to treat officials with utter contempt.hang the dj wrote:So your personal opinion of him isn't very good but surely you would not condon detah threats aimed at him, bomb hoaxes & bullets being sent to him resulting in 24 hour security being providedThe Ginger Ninja wrote:And rightly so. wonderful little man.hang the dj wrote:He was punished for thatThe Ginger Ninja wrote: So it was fine for Lennon to scream in an officials face then? Odious little man, is Lennon. Obviously has no respect for referees.
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I've never known so much hatred to be aimed at a manager.mancdart wrote:You never had this trouble with Mo'n.
With all these websites set up about "killing Neil Lennon" all it takes is for one drunken idiot to think I'll be hero & go out & actually attempt to kill him - very bad state of affairs
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Not supporting these people who set up these websites, but Lennon has hardly helped himself with his actions.hang the dj wrote:I've never known so much hatred to be aimed at a manager.mancdart wrote:You never had this trouble with Mo'n.
With all these websites set up about "killing Neil Lennon" all it takes is for one drunken idiot to think I'll be hero & go out & actually attempt to kill him - very bad state of affairs
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Rivalries in English football are just as heated as in Glasgow.Gary M wrote:Absolutely spot on Geo. I laugh my head off when I hear - "the explosive Manchester derby" or "a heated North East clash". You wouldn't know what a rivalry was if it came up and hit you on the face.
The difference is though, that these are football rivalries. (unlike in Glasgow)
At the end of the day Celtic and Rangers are two nothing teams playing in a two team League and anyone who has any interest in football doesn't even care who Wins this nothing match.
As far as 'genuine' football rivalries go, Liverpool vs Manchester United is much bigger.
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What kind of actions warrent death threats?The Ginger Ninja wrote:Not supporting these people who set up these websites, but Lennon has hardly helped himself with his actions.hang the dj wrote:I've never known so much hatred to be aimed at a manager.mancdart wrote:You never had this trouble with Mo'n.
With all these websites set up about "killing Neil Lennon" all it takes is for one drunken idiot to think I'll be hero & go out & actually attempt to kill him - very bad state of affairs
If you don't like him for football reasons then fine but the fact that loyalists groups have admitted to sending him bullets in the post shows that this has nothing to do with football but that he is a Northern Irish Catholic managing Celtic
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As Celtic & rangers are really the only 2 teams who will win the league then surely their "football rivalry" is huge as the team who generally wins the most "derby" games wins the league.BrideOfFrankenstein wrote:Rivalries in English football are just as heated as in Glasgow.Gary M wrote:Absolutely spot on Geo. I laugh my head off when I hear - "the explosive Manchester derby" or "a heated North East clash". You wouldn't know what a rivalry was if it came up and hit you on the face.
The difference is though, that these are football rivalries. (unlike in Glasgow)
At the end of the day Celtic and Rangers are two nothing teams playing in a two team League and anyone who has any interest in football doesn't even care who Wins this nothing match.
As far as 'genuine' football rivalries go, Liverpool vs Manchester United is much bigger.
I think 2 nothing teams is complete nonsense, as like Man Utd & Liverpool both Celtic & rangers recognised throughout the world. Pretty sure that after Man Utd & Liverpool, Celtic have the most supporters clubs throughout the world