Turning the issue into a PDC v BDO thing again, Mr Thump?Ecky Thump wrote:Bram_1900 wrote:When will the PDC come with a statement on this incident. The next event will start this friday. No sign of Klaasen withdrawing yet.
Their silence speaks volumes.
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Ecky Thump wrote:Bram_1900 wrote:When will the PDC come with a statement on this incident. The next event will start this friday. No sign of Klaasen withdrawing yet.
Their silence speaks volumes.
to be fair, at this stage i think it is purely Klaasen's decision whether to play events at present...the PDC cannot and should not comment at this point while evidence is being taken for a possible court case..it would be irresponsible to do so..
Once the case goes to court and a decision legally has been made then the PDC should and will comment...until then it is down to Klaasen as to what he wants to do playing wise
There have been plenty of sports where players have had court cases hanging over them, some very serious ones as well, but they have continued playing until a legal verdict has been reached which is how it should be really.
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Not at all. We know Gary Anderson has been banned from selected tourneys, despite a supposed no naming of guilty parties policy. Surely whatever Gary did cannot be as bad as what Klaasen has apparently admitted to. I did not mention the BDO, you did. Don't try to second guess my intentions if you are going to be so wrong.Ginge wrote:Turning the issue into a PDC v BDO thing again, Mr Thump?Ecky Thump wrote:Bram_1900 wrote:When will the PDC come with a statement on this incident. The next event will start this friday. No sign of Klaasen withdrawing yet.
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Again, hasn't he admitted to it?trotter wrote:Ecky Thump wrote:Bram_1900 wrote:When will the PDC come with a statement on this incident. The next event will start this friday. No sign of Klaasen withdrawing yet.
Their silence speaks volumes.
to be fair, at this stage i think it is purely Klaasen's decision whether to play events at present...the PDC cannot and should not comment at this point while evidence is being taken for a possible court case..it would be irresponsible to do so..
Once the case goes to court and a decision legally has been made then the PDC should and will comment...until then it is down to Klaasen as to what he wants to do playing wise
There have been plenty of sports where players have had court cases hanging over them, some very serious ones as well, but they have continued playing until a legal verdict has been reached which is how it should be really.
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Gary Anderson's issue wasnt an external legal matter, was it not? You cant really compare the two.Ecky Thump wrote:Not at all. We know Gary Anderson has been banned from selected tourneys, despite a supposed no naming of guilty parties policy. Surely whatever Gary did cannot be as bad as what Klaasen has apparently admitted to. I did not mention the BDO, you did. Don't try to second guess my intentions if you are going to be so wrong.Ginge wrote:Turning the issue into a PDC v BDO thing again, Mr Thump?Ecky Thump wrote:Bram_1900 wrote:When will the PDC come with a statement on this incident. The next event will start this friday. No sign of Klaasen withdrawing yet.
Their silence speaks volumes.
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i thought anderson got banned from the euro events because he gave up in a game
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Exactly, hardly a delicate legal matter.paul80 wrote:i thought anderson got banned from the euro events because he gave up in a game
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They had supposedly adopted a no naming policy in disciplinary matters, then went back on it. Lack of consistency there.Ginge wrote:Gary Anderson's issue wasnt an external legal matter, was it not? You cant really compare the two.Ecky Thump wrote:Not at all. We know Gary Anderson has been banned from selected tourneys, despite a supposed no naming of guilty parties policy. Surely whatever Gary did cannot be as bad as what Klaasen has apparently admitted to. I did not mention the BDO, you did. Don't try to second guess my intentions if you are going to be so wrong.Ginge wrote:Turning the issue into a PDC v BDO thing again, Mr Thump?Ecky Thump wrote:Bram_1900 wrote:When will the PDC come with a statement on this incident. The next event will start this friday. No sign of Klaasen withdrawing yet.
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So personally you think Klaasen should be allowed to compete?Ginge wrote:Exactly, hardly a delicate legal matter.paul80 wrote:i thought anderson got banned from the euro events because he gave up in a game
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Well to be fair do we know if he has been charged with anything yet? If I was him though I would pull out and no doubt the PDC will be advising him to, guess they cant make him though yet. The last thing they want is 2000 people shouting "nonce, nonce, nonce" at him this coming weekend and I fully expect him to pull out.Ecky Thump wrote:So personally you think Klaasen should be allowed to compete?Ginge wrote:Exactly, hardly a delicate legal matter.paul80 wrote:i thought anderson got banned from the euro events because he gave up in a game
Players have pulled out the day before in these events so Im not surprised I havent heard anything yet about withdrawals
As for the "no naming" thing it is a bit annoying, although if Ando was missing from three big events with no explanation, it would raise quite a few debates as to why.
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It's more than annoying, it stinks.Ginge wrote:Well to be fair do we know if he has been charged with anything yet? If I was him though I would pull out and no doubt the PDC will be advising him to, guess they cant make him though yet. The last thing they want is 2000 people shouting "nonce, nonce, nonce" at him this coming weekend and I fully expect him to pull out.Ecky Thump wrote:So personally you think Klaasen should be allowed to compete?Ginge wrote:Exactly, hardly a delicate legal matter.paul80 wrote:i thought anderson got banned from the euro events because he gave up in a game
Players have pulled out the day before in these events so Im not surprised I havent heard anything yet about withdrawals
As for the "no naming" thing it is a bit annoying, although if Ando was missing from three big events with no explanation, it would raise quite a few debates as to why.
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What would you have liked to have happened? Ando not to have been named and then him mysteriously absent from a TV event, with a "lie" given by the PDC as the reason?
Then you would have critisised the PDC for lying, so you cant win.
Then you would have critisised the PDC for lying, so you cant win.
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Name all or name none. They used to name all didn't they? Why did that change?Ginge wrote:What would you have liked to have happened? Ando not to have been named and then him mysteriously absent from a TV event, with a "lie" given by the PDC as the reason?
Then you would have critisised the PDC for lying, so you cant win.
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We both know why that changedEcky Thump wrote:Name all or name none. They used to name all didn't they? Why did that change?Ginge wrote:What would you have liked to have happened? Ando not to have been named and then him mysteriously absent from a TV event, with a "lie" given by the PDC as the reason?
Then you would have critisised the PDC for lying, so you cant win.
So lets say it was "name none" and then Ando was missing, how would the PDC have explained it? They would have had to issue a "lie", bit like when Chris Mason pulled out of the UK Open with "illness" when in actual fact he was arrested.
Then you would be moaning that they lied.
See what I mean? They would never be able to win in your eyes in this scenario.
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Anderson got banned for his actions after giving up the game not for giving up the game.Ginge wrote:Exactly, hardly a delicate legal matter.paul80 wrote:i thought anderson got banned from the euro events because he gave up in a game
Violent and abusive behaviour I believe.
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to me klaasen shouldnt of been named until he had been charged the pdc then could of made a statement and the anderson matter isnt really a serious matter to be fair so they were right to to make a statement
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You are aware that the Dutch media broke the story, dont you?paul80 wrote:to me klaasen shouldnt of been named until he had been charged the pdc then could of made a statement and the anderson matter isnt really a serious matter to be fair so they were right to to make a statement
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They created this scenario with their inconsistency. They can win in my eyes by being consistent, but as you have said with other issues it's their ball and they can do what they like with it.Ginge wrote:We both know why that changedEcky Thump wrote:Name all or name none. They used to name all didn't they? Why did that change?Ginge wrote:What would you have liked to have happened? Ando not to have been named and then him mysteriously absent from a TV event, with a "lie" given by the PDC as the reason?
Then you would have critisised the PDC for lying, so you cant win.
So lets say it was "name none" and then Ando was missing, how would the PDC have explained it? They would have had to issue a "lie", bit like when Chris Mason pulled out of the UK Open with "illness" when in actual fact he was arrested.
Then you would be moaning that they lied.
See what I mean? They would never be able to win in your eyes in this scenario.
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And am I right that he has admitted to it?Ginge wrote:You are aware that the Dutch media broke the story, dont you?paul80 wrote:to me klaasen shouldnt of been named until he had been charged the pdc then could of made a statement and the anderson matter isnt really a serious matter to be fair so they were right to to make a statement
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Yes. He is "sorry" as well.Ecky Thump wrote:And am I right that he has admitted to it?Ginge wrote:You are aware that the Dutch media broke the story, dont you?paul80 wrote:to me klaasen shouldnt of been named until he had been charged the pdc then could of made a statement and the anderson matter isnt really a serious matter to be fair so they were right to to make a statement
Chizzyesque