What's going on in the world

[Ginge]

About to say, didnt they say they needed a few weeks notice?

[ILAD]

About to say, didnt they say they needed a few weeks notice?

Yep, they need to get the production going again, our reps said it would take 4 weeks to get back to capacity. They have probably already started.

[ChrisW]

Started last week on a piece on the beeb.

[ILAD]

Why is this offensive? Has the world gone mad? Col?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53145201

[ILAD]

Why is this offensive? Has the world gone mad? Col?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53145201

[ChrisW]

Why is this offensive? Has the world gone mad? Col?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53145201

They lost 5 zip?

[ILAD]

Why is this offensive? Has the world gone mad? Col?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53145201

They lost 5 zip?

Was only 4 when I posted this.

[ILAD]

Why is this offensive? Has the world gone mad? Col?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53145201

They lost 5 zip?

Was only 4 when I posted this.

[Rout]

Firstly, nobody can tell you what you should find offensive. That's your personal choice and basic human right.

But supporters of BLM may find it offensive, because the point of the movement is not to suggest that white lives DONT matter or that they matter LESS than black lives.

Using it in this way, given the PL campaign on the shirts and taking the knee, suggests the organisers of the flyover feel that's the case, which nobody, nowhere is arguing at all.

[Rout]

Or to put it more simply....

[ILAD]

Firstly, nobody can tell you what you should find offensive. That's your personal choice and basic human right.

But supporters of BLM may find it offensive, because the point of the movement is not to suggest that white lives DONT matter or that they matter LESS than black lives.

Using it in this way, given the PL campaign on the shirts and taking the knee, suggests the organisers of the flyover feel that's the case, which nobody, nowhere is arguing at all.

What a load of shite you spout.

[Rout]

Another intelligent, well thought out retort.

[ILAD]

For the avoidance of any doubt. Amongst BLM UK's stated aims, in their own words, on their Go Fund Me page are :

# Defund and disband the Police.

# Close all prisons.

# Dismantle capitalism/system change.

If you agree with BLM in the UK, them's the outcomes you are supporting.

[Rout]

For the avoidance of any doubt. Amongst BLM UK's stated aims, in their own words, on their Go Fund Me page are :

# Defund and disband the Police.

# Close all prisons.

# Dismantle capitalism/system change.

If you agree with BLM in the UK, them's the outcomes you are supporting.

Thank you for telling me what I am supporting. Not at all an ignorant, sweeping generalisation.

[ILAD]

For the avoidance of any doubt. Amongst BLM UK's stated aims, in their own words, on their Go Fund Me page are :

# Defund and disband the Police.

# Close all prisons.

# Dismantle capitalism/system change.

If you agree with BLM in the UK, them's the outcomes you are supporting.

Thank you for telling me what I am supporting. Not at all an ignorant, sweeping generalisation.

Glad your are happy.

[Skewball]

For the avoidance of any doubt. Amongst BLM UK's stated aims, in their own words, on their Go Fund Me page are :

# Defund and disband the Police.

# Close all prisons.

# Dismantle capitalism/system change.

If you agree with BLM in the UK, them's the outcomes you are supporting.

I dont support the official organisations aim but support the # and what the movement has become to symbolise in raising awareness about the injustices that do sadly exist in our society ( although not to the extent as in America.)

It's really not hard.

[ILAD]

For the avoidance of any doubt. Amongst BLM UK's stated aims, in their own words, on their Go Fund Me page are :

# Defund and disband the Police.

# Close all prisons.

# Dismantle capitalism/system change.

If you agree with BLM in the UK, them's the outcomes you are supporting.

I dont support the official organisations aim but support the # and what the movement has become to symbolise in raising awareness about the injustices that do sadly exist in our society ( although not to the extent as in America.)

It's really not hard.

You support the # listed above?

[Rout]

For the avoidance of any doubt. Amongst BLM UK's stated aims, in their own words, on their Go Fund Me page are :

# Defund and disband the Police.

# Close all prisons.

# Dismantle capitalism/system change.

If you agree with BLM in the UK, them's the outcomes you are supporting.

I dont support the official organisations aim but support the # and what the movement has become to symbolise in raising awareness about the injustices that do sadly exist in our society ( although not to the extent as in America.)

It's really not hard.

Exactly. The only thing people across the globe who support the movement have in common is to wish for a fairer world.

Anything beyond that is subjective and individual. Some take it to extremes, many don't.

[ILAD]

For the avoidance of any doubt. Amongst BLM UK's stated aims, in their own words, on their Go Fund Me page are :

# Defund and disband the Police.

# Close all prisons.

# Dismantle capitalism/system change.

If you agree with BLM in the UK, them's the outcomes you are supporting.

I dont support the official organisations aim but support the # and what the movement has become to symbolise in raising awareness about the injustices that do sadly exist in our society ( although not to the extent as in America.)

It's really not hard.

Exactly. The only thing people across the globe who support the movement have in common is to wish for a fairer world.

Anything beyond that is subjective and individual. Some take it to extremes, many don't.

I agree with what you say, I agree that it is being taken to extremes. Everyone should be equal period.

[Rout]

I completely understand why some want to reform the police. In the US it needs a root and branch overhaul. I can even understand why some communities are looking for community based alternatives. Some areas feel the police currently are more likely to cause harm than good and we can't empathise with that. I don't believe that the aim of some to exist without police is a realistic proposition but I don't believe they represent the majority either by a long shot.

It's also important to differentiate between the UK and US too. The problem is much worse there but that does not mean there isnt a problem here that might get worse if not respected.

On a side note, I do find it quite ironic that most of the people I see getting hysterical about defund the police are the ones that keep voting in a government that have systematically stripped the police down to its bare bones, cutting 24,000 full time police officers over the last decade, leaving it incapable of dealing with anything other than the most serious of crimes in many areas.